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Fusco T
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Posted - 2003.07.14 19:57:00 -
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For the original poster: Create an alt and go pick up the stuff you need. Alt can't fly the ship you want? Get on a channel and pay someone to move it for you. Or have alt buy BP.
Those who choose a path of pirating have the highest POTENTIAL income. For this they also must have the highest POTENTIAL risk.
You and yours decided 2 weeks after release to be the most hated outlaws eve had ever known. Well your corp pulled it off. You guys had 7 of the top ten worst.
Now you are crying that you can't get a skill pack? Or a new ship? When new pilots asked not to be podded did you give them the same recourse you now seek from a GM? At what level will you see your own hypocrisy here?
What does outlaw mean to you? To me it means someone who has completely bucked the system and said screw everyone I'm a bad ass that can take care of myself and you can't do anything to me.
All this sounds like is you took the easiest porfession in the game and when they balanced it out you're crying. My brother went minmatar and projectiles, the last patch had him going from on top to the bottom of the barrel. He is now deciding to either switch ship types or try and come up with a strategy that works.
I would suggest the same to any others. Figure it out. If you can't figure it out then don't do it and try something else.
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Fusco T
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Posted - 2003.07.14 20:13:00 -
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""I don't think some people will be satisfied until all the pirates are restricted to Serpentis Prime and can go no further without drawing a response equivalent to the 1st Fleet, with all supporting forces, on their heads.""
Where did you come up with that? Have any supporting evidence or is this some general statement meant to illicit a specific response?
""People need to figure out that this game was never meant to be a completely safe one. That the NPC pirates cannot provide sufficient risk no matter how strong CCP makes them as they lack intelligence and creativity.""
Again what gives you the idea that people don't have it figured out? People need? People need alot of things I'm sure. However I highly doubt MMORPG AI is a big priority.
""And before someone chirps up that what m0o and other pirates were doing wasn't creative or intelligent, I'd like to remind you that it doesn't speak very well for you that someone so lacking in intelligence and creativity as you'd make them out...utterly defeated you. Without any intelligence or creativity, as you'd hold.""
The most contact I've had with Moo was them moving through a sector I was mining. Did I get totally defeated? I don't think I did, however I suppose I could be wrong. Maybe I was stealth defeated where by all outward appearances I was still my normal undefeated self but at the right day and time defeated_by_moo==true? Who really knows.
As for being smart or what have you. That is of little consequence. They found the path of least resistance early on when most people were still finishing their tutorials. However water running down a hill can also find the path of least resistance while being an inantimate object.
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Fusco T
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Posted - 2003.07.14 21:17:00 -
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""It does not have the highest potential income. That's the base problem the pirates have.
With the changes made to security, the addition of the superhighways and the lack of better trade supply they have no potential income.""
This is false and you spreading these ideas is simply a form of trying sway public opinion.
Your patronizing attitude doesn't make for better duplication either btw.
Fact: Killing a player and taking his rare mods is something that cannot be accomplished killing NPCs.
Fact: Jacking an indy full of mega/zyd is more money than a miner/trader can pull down.
What you and other pirate corporations are actually saying is that you lack the ABILITY to find these good crimes. Ok so crime is not for you because you can't figure out a way to do it efficiently.
What has no consistancy is becoming a pirate then whining about how you can't do trading? Or mining? wtf? Like the original poster. I thought moo was pirates. Now she's here crying that she can trade etc.
Fact of the matter still remains. The highest POTENTIAL is pirating. Whether the likes of you or lolante can achieve that potential is a totally different story. But changing game mechanics because you and another pirate are having trouble finding marks is a bit over the top in my estimation.
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Fusco T
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Posted - 2003.07.14 22:29:00 -
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Very good, you do see the difference between probability and potential.
But here's the kicker YOU can affect probability in this game, unlike the state lotto.
My whole point is that player pirates (after recent patch) are forced to out think their intended marks which is what I support.
In RL as many know the real big crimes take many people and much research. The petty crimes take much less, purse snatches etc..
Gate camping is the RL equivalent of purse snatching or some other petty theft.
What a good pirate ought to do is start compiling information. Which gates have guns, which don't? Looking at the markets where do I see levels of activity that pass through some of these undefended gates?
Anyway there are many things that can be done to help affect probability but I will be the first to admit it will take some planning and forethought.
So just simply finding a busy gate to camp is for the amateur. Finding the quality spots to wait for your prey is the difference between DB cooper and some pick pocket on his third run through county.
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Fusco T
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Posted - 2003.07.14 23:17:00 -
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I read that thread and didn't see anything I didn't already know.
I traded a bit early on in this game and then said to hell with it for a couple reasons.
The best reason was one of the comments saying how great trading was 10 mil for 12 hours work.
That is NOT a great profit. I can kill mobs and only pick up rare mods in my cruiser and make more than that in bounty and selling off excess mods.
In one hour killing NPC pirates and picking up cargo I can make about 800k in bounties and usually about 300k - 2 million in mods.
But then again that is only money. I actually will sit and mine as well because having minerals on hand has more value to me than the stock NPC price for minerals.
So that is why I don't trade. That and there is no point to delivering goods which have no impact on anything but my pocketbook.
Hunting rare mods has a potential for me personally as well as mining which gives me what I need to replace my ship if needed or mfr and sell items on the market to actual players.
There are still some really big pod kill numbers on the map and I am pretty sure they are picking up more than just scraps.
But I think we are finding that same empasse we did in another thread I think there is real potential in pirating and you don't essentially.
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